I don’t know if I am missing a point or not but I don’t exactly quiet get the hype as to me, it just chrome with poor man’s uBlock Origin and their own crypto in the mix.
Like how it that different from me using ether Librewolf or even Google Chromium and install uBlock Origin compare to Brave?
Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
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Nope. You are fine. Not missing shit. Only plebs rave about how awesome it. The only thing it could possibly have going for it are privacy focused defaults (maybe?)
I don’t trust brave but it does have features out of the box that no other browser has:
How does Brave Tor compared to the regular Tor browser? It is just work as the same or is there few stuff they added to make it much better?
Do not use it. Use only the Tor Browser since it’s designed to make all users look the same. (Preferrably inside of a Whonix VM.)
Tor has completely broken application on Brave, and leaks a lot of information.
I’m not too sure sorry, I haven’t really used it much other than testing it out when I found out a about it.
I would imagine you have less control over specific Tor settings, but I am not 100% sure.
Brave Software’s CEO is Brendan Eich https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich
Eich resigned from Mozilla in 2014 after it turned out that he’d made political donations against California’s same-sex marriage equality bill. Since then, he’s got press for being some kind of COVID denialist https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/22/business/brave-brendan-eich-covid-19.html
So, as well as the crypto bullshit and advertising cooperation that others mentioned, company’s run by a shitlord.
BAT is Brave Attention Token, a form of crypto exclusive and locked into Brave. Its like a little crypto mining scam.
Brave Browser is funded by DoD: https://np.reddit.com/r/privatelife/comments/fe34ls/exclusive_brave_browser_funded_by_dod_contractor/
Brave traffic detected with Cryptocompare despite BAT rewards disabled: https://unddit.com/r/privacytoolsIO/comments/gr8nue/ (removeddit no longer works, use unddit)
Brave also has a known history of whitelisting Facebook and Twitter trackers, and has a crippled adblocker that does not work on Brave’s “acceptable” advertisements.
Brave Browser hardcoded their crypto partner Binance referral links (https://twitter.com/cryptonator1337/status/1269201480105578496) alongwith Ledger and soon-to-be-compromised Coinbase (https://decrypt.co/31461/coinbase-wants-to-identify-bitcoin-users-for-dea-irs)
Also some new stuff you might want to check.
I’ve never seen any real benefit of Brave over just the vanilla unGoogled Chromium fork if you really do want Chromium, or Firefox/one of the unMozilla’d forks if you want just any engine.
Brave is basically just for people too dumb to install uBlock Origin on Firefox, and who desire a worse experience with the fickle greed of BAT garbage.
Honestly, their “make money while you browse while making money for your favorite websites all while maintaining privacy” thing is so on the nose for “too good to be true” that I’m genuinely disappointed by how many people who are supposedly pro privacy and FLOSS development fall for it. If someone promises the world, they’re almost always either misguidedly deceiving themselves, or maliciously deceiving you.
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It’s decent. Seems pretty secure but I’m not an expert. I used Opera / Firefox for over a decade and they did too many overhauls that I don’t care for them anymore.
Brave search provides an .onion instance, so I would say no
But that is a bit stupid, you can go to any search engine using Tor network too, why would I want to do it via .onion it is just slower, if you browse to youtube.com, the connection is already going through Tor, so the connection is already private.
Second thing, I am on Firefox and I can access to that link too, I have Tor on my Firefox too. So if I want to do a private search I just use a searx instance and from Tor I do any search I need.
So I don’t see what you are saying makes any sense.
I’m more on about Brave the browser, not really on about their search engine which they made
So? .onion addresses only leverages some load to the nodes, it doesn’t make your connection more anonymous/secure.
I agree on the fact that .onion addresses are not security and/or privacy silver bullets (Both twitter and reddit have one for example) you still need to trust the service provider. But with that said for certain things they can add a layer of anonimity that’s not really possible to archive without them.
But Brave the search engine and brave the browser are two different things tho.
Sometimes I need Chromium. I always want an ad-blocker, though. So the two best choices are Vivaldi and Brave.
Vivaldi is closed-source, which is bad. But it has a lot of good customization options, and is transparent about its monetization.
Brave is open-source, but tries to get you into crypto junk. You can turn that off, but you have to do it for every different machine.
I currently use a combination of Librewolf and Vivaldi. But my setup shifts around a lot.
I’ve been using Brave since it was based on
GeckoMuon, and all it’s worth is ad-blocking by default. If you know how to install uBlock Origin, Brave won’t offer you any advantages.
Brave was never based on Gecko. (Originally it was based on (a fork of) Electron! 🤣)
My bad, it was Muon. No idea why I wrote Gecko
All browsers are disappointing, and I don’t think the market is capable of producing a good one.
The web itself has become a disappointing place to be honest. (Obviusly we stil have cool sites here and there but I mean generally.)
Guess whenever Google rolls out the update to disable tracker blocking as we currently know it, we’ll be firmly able to answer this question. It’s unclear to me if this will impact Brave but if it doesn’t then this will show Brave was worth the hype more or less I think.
Edit: I love FF but something’s just run better on chromium, I have FF as default with Brave as a back up
Well, what Google wants to introduce is a completely arbitrary limit to the number of filtering rules, so increasing that constant in the code should be no trouble at all.
Having said that, ad blocking effectiveness is lower on Chrome-based browsers already today: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-best-on-Firefox
Padding those flaws out or offering similar functionality to uBO in their custom ad blocker, that does take some effort.
It’s a different platform, you won’t participate in the monopolization of Chromium as the only browser worth building webpages for.
AFAIK you’d have to do some tweaking under the hood to achieve the same effect, particularly when it comes to de-coupling Google from Chrome. My impression is that you’d be closer to Brave if you started with Chromium or even Ungoogled-Chromium.
One problem with LibreWolf is that it has very weak security. The exact same goes for FF and other FF based browsers.
The Chromium monopoly sucks tho.
Edit: grammar. :p
Can you go into more detail about Librewolf having weak security? This is news to me.
Compared to Chromium.*
Not only LibreWolf but every FF based one.
You can check out this article since it explains it better than me: https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/firefox-chromium.html
While it’s not about the most recent version most if not all of its points are still true.
Let me provide you a little more on the subject.
Tweet linked in above hysteric post https://web.archive.org/web/20200812145114/https://nitter.net/MichalPurzynski/status/1293220570885062657
The job of madaidan/Spengler/GrapheneOS church is to hate and destroy FLOSS projects that condemn their actions or do not fall in line with them, and even attempt witch hunts on people that criticise them. I was a victim of it last year, as they hijacked the Matrix room of this very community (which I was unable to save since admins did not listen to me) and attempted to create fabricate projection lies against me because I moderate this place. https://archive.ph/acy2h
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What’s this about weak security? Do you have something to read about that?
No, he is just another victim of madaidan/Spengler/GrapheneOS church propaganda.
From the same author as one of the best linux hardening guides: https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/firefox-chromium.html
One of the best… you mean toilet papers of the internet, repeatedly trashed by r/linux and HN users?
madaidan is an admin of GrapheneOS, NoGoolag, SpiteChat communities/chatrooms across various platforms. The “insecurities” blog chap, notorious for a lot of misinformation in FOSS and Linux communities but opposite in a big chunk of mainstream privacy community. A staple of the “redditor hackerman” starterpack, for people who know nothing better.
He knows literally nothing and has proven his credentials https://i.imgur.com/UHhQRIU.jpg and https://i.imgur.com/FiYhbkk.jpg, among many other places.
Whew, the cringe is immense from both sides in that post
Be grateful for the transparency I portray, and for presenting what people otherwise would never have known. Even I see it as a bit cringey, but I was neck deep into privacy community back then, and you have to use certain lingo to mesh with that crowd.
If I told you madaidan used to (probably still moderates) NSFW subreddits years ago, you would be shell shocked.
a) I would have no idea who that person is if I hadn’t seen this post today
b) I really don’t see what the problem is with them being the mod of a couple of NSFW subs? Especially since they said they’re all just jokes and basically empty?
I literally only read their linux hardening guide and that article on browsers. And both of them seemed me pretty good.
I might ignore their activities on social media tho. I’m reading the links right to help my ignorance.
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Then get off the internet, none if it is secure.
Generally speaking is true that our security standars are incredibly low and that’s becoming more and more dangerous as time goes. Even moreso in our hyper-digitalized society.
But I fail to understand what does that have to do with the fact that FF is less secure than Chromium. May you develop, please?